diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index 220b1fb..be1f3f6 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 ## 1.4.0-alpha.8 (WIP)
 
 * Fix `_modelInstance` cache when keys are not strings
+* Fix certain settings not being applied if they're created after generating the main system setting object
 
 ## 1.4.0-alpha.7 (2024-10-10)
 
diff --git a/lib/app/model/system_setting_model.js b/lib/app/model/system_setting_model.js
index c6e6f44..7b1cb1c 100644
--- a/lib/app/model/system_setting_model.js
+++ b/lib/app/model/system_setting_model.js
@@ -144,6 +144,7 @@ SystemSetting.setDocumentMethod(function applySetting(do_actions = true) {
 
 	if (!existing_value) {
 		existing_value = setting.generateValue();
+		alchemy.system_settings.forceValueInstanceAtPath(this.setting_id, existing_value);
 	}
 
 	if (do_actions) {
diff --git a/lib/core/setting.js b/lib/core/setting.js
index 082ee4b..278b44f 100644
--- a/lib/core/setting.js
+++ b/lib/core/setting.js
@@ -452,6 +452,9 @@ const Group = Function.inherits('Alchemy.Setting.Base', function Group(name, con
 
 	// All the children
 	this.children = new Map();
+
+	// Weak references to existing values
+	this.weak_values = new Blast.Classes.WeakValueSet();
 });
 
 /**
@@ -583,6 +586,14 @@ Group.setMethod(function createGroup(name) {
 	let group = new Group(name, this);
 	this.children.set(name, group);
 
+	if (this.weak_values.size) {
+		let group_value = group.generateValue();
+
+		for (let existing of this.weak_values) {
+			this.setDefaultValue(existing, {[name]: group_value});
+		}
+	}
+
 	return group;
 });
 
@@ -633,6 +644,8 @@ Group.setMethod(function generateValue() {
 
 	this.setDefaultValue(result, object);
 
+	this.weak_values.add(result);
+
 	return result;
 });
 
@@ -1344,6 +1357,38 @@ GroupValue.setMethod(function _setPath(silent, path, raw_value) {
 	return this.getPath(path);
 });
 
+/**
+ * Force a value at the given path
+ *
+ * @author   Jelle De Loecker <jelle@elevenways.be>
+ * @since    1.4.0
+ * @version  1.4.0
+ *
+ * @param    {string|Array}   path
+ * @param    {Value}
+ */
+GroupValue.setMethod(function forceValueInstanceAtPath(path, value) {
+
+	if (typeof path == 'string') {
+		path = path.split('.');
+	}
+
+	if (this.definition.group == null && path[0] == this.definition.name) {
+		path.shift();
+	}
+
+	let last = path.pop();
+
+	let current = this;
+
+	while (path.length && current) {
+		let next = path.shift();
+		current = current.get(next);
+	}
+
+	current[VALUE][last] = value;
+});
+
 /**
  * Convert to a datasource array
  *
@@ -1584,6 +1629,20 @@ Value.setMethod(function getPath(path) {
 	return current;
 });
 
+/**
+ * Force a value at the given path
+ *
+ * @author   Jelle De Loecker <jelle@elevenways.be>
+ * @since    1.4.0
+ * @version  1.4.0
+ *
+ * @param    {string|Array}   path
+ * @param    {Value}
+ */
+Value.setMethod(function forceValueInstanceAtPath(path, value) {
+	throw new Error('Unable to perform on a simple Value instance');
+});
+
 if (Blast.isBrowser) {
 	return;
 }