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| 2 | +title: "HSF Weekly Meeting #121, January 11, 2018" |
| 3 | +layout: default |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +### *Present/Contributors*: Dario Menasce, Giulio Eluise, Graeme Stewart, Benedikt Hegner, Ian Bird, Simone Campana, Pere Mato, Thomas Kuhr, Mike Sokoloff, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Eduardo Rodrigues, Stewart Martin-Haugh, Pete Elmer |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +News, general matters |
| 9 | +===================== |
| 10 | +- ### Happy New Year! |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +CWP |
| 13 | +=== |
| 14 | +- ### General Matters and Roadmap |
| 15 | + - Reminder of the published URL: |
| 16 | + [https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.06982](https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.06982). |
| 17 | + - We continue to add authors on request to |
| 18 | + |
| 19 | + - Not a lot of new names so far this year. |
| 20 | + - At some point we have to decide when we are done. |
| 21 | + - Two talks so far this year: |
| 22 | + - Nordic Physics Conference: |
| 23 | + [https://indico.cern.ch/event/666278/contributions/2830239/](https://indico.cern.ch/event/666278/contributions/2830239/). |
| 24 | + - Grid Deployment Board: |
| 25 | + [https://indico.cern.ch/event/651349/](https://indico.cern.ch/event/651349/). |
| 26 | + - Graeme approached the CERN Courier and the editor's feedback is |
| 27 | + that this is interesting, should be a \~2400 word article. To be confirmed |
| 28 | + early next week after their editorial meeting. |
| 29 | + - Article on CWP published last year in the CERN EP department |
| 30 | + newsletter: |
| 31 | + [http://ep-news.web.cern.ch/content/hep-software-foundation-community-white-paper-looks-forward-hl-lhc](http://ep-news.web.cern.ch/content/hep-software-foundation-community-white-paper-looks-forward-hl-lhc). |
| 32 | + - Newsletter in [interactions.org](https://www.interactions.org/) - Eduardo to follow up. |
| 33 | + - We have been approached by the editors of the [Computing and |
| 34 | + Software for Big Science journal](https://www.springer.com/physics/particle+and+nuclear+physics/journal/41781) |
| 35 | + about publishing it there. |
| 36 | + - Pere wondered if this was really suitable for a research |
| 37 | + journal. As we were approached by the editors we think |
| 38 | + so - more of a review article. |
| 39 | + - Those who have known about this (Ghost Writers) are positive |
| 40 | + about this. |
| 41 | + - This would provide a natural cut off for signing. |
| 42 | + - General conclusion is that we should pursue this with the |
| 43 | + journal editors. |
| 44 | + |
| 45 | +- #### Publication strategy for Individual WG Papers |
| 46 | + - We noted that conversion from Google Doc to LaTeX was far less |
| 47 | + painful than had been thought so our recommendation for arXiv |
| 48 | + publication for individual papers is updated. This was |
| 49 | + followed to get the Software Development paper to arXiv late |
| 50 | + last year. |
| 51 | + - [Advice on WG publication](/cwp/cwp-wg-papers.html). |
| 52 | + - We have to decide what to do when the WG paper is in a much less |
| 53 | + developed state than the roadmap (Generators, ML) or only only |
| 54 | + really exists in the roadmap (Security). |
| 55 | + - #### Software Development |
| 56 | + - Done as exemplar: |
| 57 | + [https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.07959](https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.07959) |
| 58 | + - #### Simulation |
| 59 | + - Need to revisit the detailed paper ensure consistency. Then |
| 60 | + will follow the procedure. |
| 61 | + - #### Machine Learning |
| 62 | + - To follow up. |
| 63 | + - #### Software Trigger and Event Reconstruction |
| 64 | + - Neither Vava nor David can attend today. Apologies. We plan |
| 65 | + to pick up improvements to our text made during the final |
| 66 | + editing of the cwp and hope to submit to the archive next |
| 67 | + week. We already have completed one pass of gathering |
| 68 | + authors and will do another. |
| 69 | + - #### Data Organisation, Management and Access |
| 70 | + - To follow up. |
| 71 | + - #### Data and Software Preservation |
| 72 | + - To follow up. |
| 73 | + - #### Data Analysis and Interpretation |
| 74 | + - To follow up. |
| 75 | + - #### Visualization |
| 76 | + - Ric (unable to attend today) will do final paper edits next |
| 77 | + week, ready for last circulation before arXiv. |
| 78 | + - #### Event/Data Processing Frameworks |
| 79 | + - Liz at CERN next week, will follow up with Benedikt. |
| 80 | + - #### Careers, Staffing and Training |
| 81 | + - Dario will backport material from the roadmap. |
| 82 | + - #### Facilities and Distributed Computing |
| 83 | + - Clean up needed of the WG document. |
| 84 | + - #### Conditions Access |
| 85 | + - To follow up. |
| 86 | + - #### Generators |
| 87 | + - Needs some work from roadmap document. Should get CMS, |
| 88 | + Durham IPPP inputs as well. |
| 89 | + - #### Security |
| 90 | + - To follow up. |
| 91 | +- John Harvey - what's the plan for producing a document for the LHCC? |
| 92 | + <br>Ian - will give the LHCC a strategy document in February; the WLCG |
| 93 | + view of the CWP Roadmap. |
| 94 | + |
| 95 | +Upcoming Events |
| 96 | +=============== |
| 97 | + |
| 98 | +[HSF/WLCG Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/658060/overview) |
| 99 | +----------------- |
| 100 | +- Summary yesterday in [GDB meeting](https://indico.cern.ch/event/651349/). |
| 101 | + - All local organisation points are done. |
| 102 | + - Registration has quietly opened yesterday. |
| 103 | + - Need to chase up conveners (we have a wish list - need to |
| 104 | + contact them). |
| 105 | + - Goal is to follow up on the CWP roadmap, identify and work on |
| 106 | + real projects. |
| 107 | + - Plenty of parallel session opportunities - *working groups should actively propose |
| 108 | + parallel sessions!* |
| 109 | +- Discussion: Mike - goal should be cross-experiment development |
| 110 | + collaborations. Useful to have 'outcomes' in advance and try to |
| 111 | + structure the workshop towards them; though sometimes the outcomes were |
| 112 | + different to those originally envisaged. E.g., in software |
| 113 | + development could try to discuss tools and methods to implement |
| 114 | + suggestions in the white paper. Giulio - could discuss an |
| 115 | + incubation procedure to help people to get started on their |
| 116 | + projects. Simone - should focus on priorities for WLCG. |
| 117 | +- Please check the [agenda](https://indico.cern.ch/event/658060/timetable/). |
| 118 | + Main point is to get the right people there. |
| 119 | + |
| 120 | +PyHEP Workshop |
| 121 | +-------------- |
| 122 | +- Reminder: 1st "Python in HEP" workshop to be held as a pre-CHEP |
| 123 | + event on 7-8 July 2018, so just before CHEP 2018 itself. |
| 124 | + - Goal of workshop(s): provide an environment to discuss and |
| 125 | + promote the usage of Python in the HEP community at large. |
| 126 | +- Organisation progressing well and we now have a reasonable idea of |
| 127 | + workshop structure & agenda. |
| 128 | + - Organising committee: Eduardo, Graeme, Jeff. |
| 129 | +- The 1.5-day agenda will be composed of plenary sessions dedicated to |
| 130 | + the following topics: |
| 131 | + 1. Historical perspective and overview |
| 132 | + 2. PyROOT and Python bindings |
| 133 | + 3. HEP python software ecosystem |
| 134 | + 4. Distribution and installation |
| 135 | + 5. Analysis frameworks |
| 136 | + 6. Python 2 versus 3 |
| 137 | + 7. Open discussion on education and training |
| 138 | +- There won't be any training sessions or hackathons in this first |
| 139 | + workshop, but some level of tuition will come in small bites in |
| 140 | + the various presentations, which will try and be educative, not |
| 141 | + just informative, with well-defined examples relevant to the |
| 142 | + topics under discussion |
| 143 | + - One of the goals of this PyHEP workshop will be to identify |
| 144 | + training workshops or hackathons the community would like to |
| 145 | + have in the future |
| 146 | +- Announcement will go out on Monday 15th |
| 147 | + - Dedicated page + advert on HSF website |
| 148 | + - Announcement email to be sent around |
| 149 | +- Once the announcement is out, find speakers for presentations |
| 150 | + foreseen, finalise the agenda, \... |
| 151 | + |
| 152 | +Activity updates |
| 153 | +================ |
| 154 | + |
| 155 | +Licensing |
| 156 | +--------- |
| 157 | +- Graeme still chasing HepMC status. |
| 158 | + |
| 159 | +Training |
| 160 | +-------- |
| 161 | +- Nothing to report. |
| 162 | + |
| 163 | +Packaging |
| 164 | +--------- |
| 165 | +- Next meeting 17 January. |
| 166 | + |
| 167 | +AOB |
| 168 | +=== |
| 169 | +- HSF New Year Newsletter |
| 170 | + - Should cover CWP status and upcoming workshops |
| 171 | +- Make sure we propose a CWP talk for CHEP itself. |
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