The future (macOS Version)

[asmvik]

So just wondering how many people use this software and how, and how to approach the future. Please answer the below poll if you care.

[Jo-Panic]

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but I wanted to share: Yabai has become a crucial part of my workflow, so I've decided to stick with Sequoia until a stable version is released for Tahoe. Thanks so much for your hard work!

[pmlane]

I'm in the exact same boat, checking for a new release almost daily. I'd prefer not to mess with a non-release install but I may have to in the future.

[encinascarles]

Same herem I just use Yabai for instant desktop switching and to move pages from one desktop to another, but it's at the point where I can't work without it. I'm waiting on Sequoia, but as soon as Yabai gets updated I'll update.

[pseudobun]

+1, not upgrading to tahoe until yabai has a stable relase for it.

[qns7]

Exactly this! I f*cking LOVE skhd+yabai.

[phantomwhale]

I voted "latest stable" - but that's a part of making sure to stay current with security etc... and that my dev tooling continues to work as expected. Usually this means waiting for the X.1 release, and also double-checking essential tools continue to operate - such as Yabai, in my case.

[Bellavene]

I personally stick to Sequoia. Tahoe looks to me as a mess, sadly. While it shows that it uses near the same amount of RAM, it clearly does not. Even sound goes choppy by just opening another window? Not a fan of the new UI look. It forces game overlay and FileVault to be on...
It is the first version of macos i've seen where apple logo was not centered at boot, it is shifted to the right. That's about the quality of the product.

Also, beware. I got some frustrations about Time Machine on a fresh Tahoe installation, but this applies to all macos versions. If your user's UID is not 501, then you need to create other users on freshly installed macos, before restoring through time machine, until the next UID number for a new user will match yours... Otherwise, you will get a partially broken system and some applications won't work, because the system will set permissions on those applications to the wrong or even unexisting user...

[KriZG753]

I currently run Tahoe and sadly I don't really know how to revert back, since I've never really trusted myself to use the time machine back up etc, but if I could, I would, just so I can use Yabai to its full capacity. With that said, however, I think the community fully understand and is grateful for how amazing Yabai has been and is patient knowing this is probably extremely time consuming! Thank you for the amazing hard work you've put into this! It would be amazing to see updates on this, however, if not, I'll just get over my trust issues with time machine back ups and revert back hahaha

[evgkirov]

I've started with using KWM, then ChunkWM, and now Yabai. Over the years, your WMs became an essential part of my workflow I can't live without. Really, really amazing work, well done!

I always update to the latest OS, and I would like to update to Tahoe, but I'm deferring this update until Yabai is ready – just patiently waiting for now. Aerospace looks promising, yes, and it is my backup plan, but I don't want to get into a hassle of migrating to it just yet.

[ognistik]

The one reason I haven't updated to Tahoe is because I'm waiting for Yabai.

[mhjiang97]

Same here

[hamadahiro]

Same

[s00500]

I do like running on tahoe right now, but I just reccently switched lots of my workflow to scratchpads... and now I will likely have to wait a bit till support comes back... thats ok, but I really enjoyed using it reccently

[fakebizprez]

i put Tahoe on my laptop (i work off of a Studio) and i am regretting it.

[itschip]

lol, yeah. I was forced to update and everything went to shit

[dirdr]

really just blended in my normal workflow, since updating i'm regretting every day

[tahabebek]

Same here, yabai is very crucial for me. I am suffering after upgrading to Tahoe.

[maulik13]

I understand this is volumeter work and if you or others don't have capacity to maintain it. For me I have been using Yabai for 2 years or so and I cannot work easily without it. My whole setup of dual monitor setup both at work and home works flawlessly because of yabai. Yes there are quirks, but they so little compared to the value I get from yabai. I only understood how much I rely on Yabai after it stopped working in Tahoe 😅

When it comes to upgrading, I have to be on latest stable due to our work policy.

[peppy]

I updated to Tahoe before properly confirming yabai was working (was fine on my portable setup but i use a single space there) and my whole workflow is screwed now. 🥲

I know the issues are already reported but:

• Layouts not always updating when new windows appear or after switching spaces
• Screen margins being ignored after some time

I'm coping by having a shortcut key to restart yabai (via raycast), which fixes this on the current screen temporarily.

[itschip]

Having the same issues

[owczr]

Same here, I was curious to check out Tahoe without thinking how it could break my existing flow

[gc-av]

Before running any OS upgrades, I will always check for yabai compatibility. I cannot imagine using Mac without it. Thank you so much for creating and maintaining this project

[itschip]

Yep, latest HEAD looks to have solved a lot for me.

[asmvik]

Released v7.1.16 with preliminary macOS Tahoe support. Unsure if everything is working as expected, but should be an improvement at the very least.

[encinascarles]

Great news! 👏
Could you please confirm if switching desktops and moving windows between spaces still works with this release?

[dirdr]

Great news! 👏

Could you please confirm if switching desktops and moving windows between spaces still works with this release?

Yes it work in the latest while the .15 it was not working, I'm on MacOS Tahoe 26.0.1

[Bellavene]

For those who don't like the new UI in Tahoe.

sudo mkdir -p /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain && sudo tee /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/SwiftUI.plist <<EOF
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Solarium</key>
<dict>
<key>Enabled</key>
<false/>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
EOF

[Bellavene]

If someone finds a way to unload game overlay (and maybe gamed altogether) from the processes without consequences (low bandwidth for Bluetooth audio, etc.), please leave a comment.

[anhthang]

I'm having a problem since the v7.1.16 update. The app isn't working anymore, although it worked great before.

[dirdr]

I'm having a problem since the v7.1.16 update. The app isn't working anymore, although it worked great before.

Hello,
I juste updated as well, and it is working fine, but I had to

• reinstall from release (I was installing with homebrew from HEAD)
• rebuild the scripting addition row (with the command and pasting inside the sudoers file)
• sudo load sa and yabai -restart-service

[qns7]

Thanks for this guide - will test this in the near future.
Had big problems with SA since updating and rolled back because of that.

[anhthang]

before that, i just need to reinstall from brew and restart yabai service, it works then. but im not using sa from the starts

[francosang]

This software is very important to me. I still use it on Sonoma because my Mac is managed by my company and they haven't updated us yet.

[caniswim]

The day Yabai is no longer available, I will stick with Linux

[anujc4]

Pretty much 100%. yabai + skhd is so crucial to my workflow, and enterprise restrictions make it difficult to switch to Linux.

[YenHungLai]

Can't imagine not having Yabai on my computer