[Feature Request] Two-Pass NER Pipeline & Glossary Management for Translation Consistency

[briandyy]

Hi @hydropix,

Thank you for this amazing project! I've been using it to translate long web novels, and while the current architecture is fantastic, I'd like to propose a feature that would significantly improve translation consistency across long documents: A Two-Pass NER (Named Entity Recognition) Pipeline & Glossary Management System.

The Problem / Use Case

When translating long novels (e.g., 1800+ chapters), the AI often struggles with entity consistency. This is especially problematic when the source text is an existing machine-translated English version rather than the raw Chinese original. For instance, a protagonist named "Li Fan" might randomly get translated as "Li Fanking" or "Li Fangue" in later chapters.

While the current Custom Instructions system helps, managing a manual glossary for hundreds of characters, sects, and locations is tedious.

Proposed Solution: Two-Pass NER Pipeline

I propose adding an optional NER pipeline that extracts entities before the actual translation begins, allowing the user to verify them, and then injecting them into the translation prompt.

Phase 1: NER Core Extraction

• An option to pre-scan batches of chapters to extract entities using LLMs (e.g., Gemma 4, Mistral).
• Categorize extracted entities into: Characters, Locations, Sects, Items.
• Output this as a structured Glossary (JSON format).

Phase 2: Glossary Management (Web UI & CLI)

• Add a new "Glossary & NER" section in the Web UI.
• Allow users to auto-generate, upload (JSON/CSV), edit, and download glossaries.
• Users can review and fix the auto-generated translations (e.g., enforcing "Qingxuan Sect" across all chapters).

Phase 3: Translation Pipeline Integration

• Modify generate_translation_prompt() to accept the active glossary.
• Inject the glossary into the system prompt (e.g., "Use these translations for consistency: 李凡 → Li Fan").
• Store the active glossary_id inside the Checkpoint data so that if the translation is paused/resumed, the glossary context is preserved.

Why This Adds Value

1. Quality: Drastically reduces hallucinations in character/location names.
2. Automation: Saves users hours of manually reading and compiling glossary text files.
3. Seamless Integration: It perfectly complements your existing prompt injection and format adapter architecture.

Open Questions for Implementation

If you are open to this idea, I'd love to discuss:

1. Would you prefer the glossary data to be stored as simple local JSON files (/glossaries folder) or integrated into jobs.db?
2. Are characters, locations, sects, and items sufficient default entity types for the prompt engineering?

I've already thought about the codebase architecture for this and would be more than happy to help submit PRs for the backend logic or UI components if you think this is a good direction for the project!

Looking forward to your thoughts.

[hydropix]

Hello,
For another (private) project, I built an analysis tool that extracts character names from a book. It works on a very similar principle, using NER and LLM-based extraction. It works more or less, but it’s not perfect. I’ll likely continue working on the other project and merge the results if it works. However, you should be aware that the longer and more complex the instructions are, the more errors the LLM generally makes. More instructions weaken the overall instructions, and with local LLMs performing much worse than state-of-the-art models, it’s a delicate balance to strike.
In any case, I’ll consider transferring the technology between the two projects once I’ve obtained consistent results.

[briandyy]

Hi @hydropix,

Thanks for the detailed insight! I completely agree with your point about the delicate balance. "Prompt dilution" is definitely a major bottleneck. When we feed a massive global glossary into the system prompt, local LLMs—especially smaller ones—tend to lose focus, hallucinate, or completely ignore formatting instructions because their attention mechanism gets overloaded.

To mitigate this, I'd like to suggest "Dynamic Glossary Injection." ### How Dynamic Injection Works:
Instead of passing the entire glossary of hundreds or thousands of characters to the LLM for every single chunk, we filter it beforehand.

1. Before sending the text to the AI, the Python script scans the current chunk of text (e.g., Chapter 10) using regex or basic string matching.
2. The script checks: "Out of the 1000 terms in the global glossary, which ones actually appear in Chapter 10?"
3. If Chapter 10 only contains two specific names (e.g., "Li Fan" and "Qingxuan Sect"), the script only injects those 2 terms into the prompt.

Dynamic Glossary Injection — Solving Prompt Dilution for Local LLM Translation Pipelines

TL;DR: Feeding a massive glossary into the system prompt kills local models. We filter the glossary per-chunk so the model only sees what it needs. Combined with 2026-era distilled reasoning models, this makes local novel translation actually viable.

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The Problem: Why Dumping a Full Glossary Destroys Local Models

When we feed a global glossary — hundreds or thousands of character names, sect names, skill names, item names — into the system prompt, we're asking the model to hold all that information in working memory while simultaneously:

• Following strict formatting rules (e.g., "output as JSON," "maintain paragraph structure")
• Preserving the literary tone and narrative voice of the source text
• Producing an accurate, consistent translation

For local LLMs, especially anything under 13B parameters, this is a catastrophic overload.

The Technical Reason: Finite Attention Budget

Transformer-based LLMs process text through self-attention layers. Every token in the prompt competes for the model's "attention weight." When you inject 800 glossary entries (easily 3000–5000 tokens) into the system prompt, the model's attention gets diluted — spread thin across thousands of tokens that are mostly irrelevant to the current chunk of text.

Think of it like trying to study for an exam while someone reads the entire phone book out loud next to you. Technically the information is "available," but your brain physically cannot prioritize what matters.

The result is predictable and devastating to translation quality:

Failure Mode 1: Hallucinated Translations

The model "sees" a glossary entry mapping 青玄宗 → Qingxuan Sect, but because that entry is buried 2000+ tokens back in the prompt, the attention weight on it has decayed to near-zero by the time the model encounters 青玄宗 in the actual text. So instead of recalling the correct mapping, the model improvises — generating something phonetically or semantically plausible but completely wrong.

Real-world example from a Yi-34B test run:

Source Term	Glossary Says	Model Actually Output
青玄宗	Qingxuan Sect	Azure Mystery Sect
天剑门	Heavenly Sword Gate	Celestial Blade Sect
混沌珠	Chaos Pearl	Orb of Primordial Entropy

That last one is particularly painful — the model didn't just get it wrong, it went full creative writing mode and invented a term that sounds like it belongs in a completely different novel.

Failure Mode 2: Inconsistent Names (The Silent Killer)

This is the one that ruins entire translation projects. The model doesn't hallucinate a wrong name — it hallucinate a different name every few paragraphs. Because the glossary entry for 李凡 is competing with hundreds of other entries for attention, the model's confidence in the correct mapping fluctuates constantly.

Real-world example — translating a 3000-word chapter with Mistral 7B v0.1:

Paragraph	Source	Output
§1	李凡	Li Fan
§3	李凡	Lee Fan
§5	李凡	Lifan
§7	李凡	Li-Fan
§9	李凡	Lie Fan
§12	李凡	Li Fang
§14	李凡	LiFanKing
§16	李凡	Lifanjue
§18	李凡	Liefan

Nine different romanizations for the same two-character name in a single chapter. And this is the protagonist. Side characters with less frequent mentions get it even worse — I've seen models output "Elder Whitecloud," "Old Man Baiyun," "Grandfather White-Cloud," and "Baiyun Laoren" for the same character (白云老人) within the span of two pages.

This inconsistency is unfixable in post-processing without essentially re-translating the chapter, because you can't reliably regex-match a name that the model spelled differently every time. Automated find-and-replace breaks when the model invents compound forms like "LiFanKing" (where did "King" come from? Nobody knows. The model hallucinated a title that doesn't exist in the source text).

Failure Mode 3: Ignored Formatting Instructions

You told the model to output translations in a specific format — maybe clean paragraphs, maybe JSON, maybe side-by-side source/target. But the glossary consumed so much of the prompt's token budget that the formatting instruction (which typically sits at the end of the system prompt) gets pushed out of the model's effective attention window.

Example — LLaMA 2 13B with a 400-term glossary:

Expected output:

{
  "paragraph_1": "Li Fan walked into the grand hall of the Qingxuan Sect.",
  "paragraph_2": "He saw Senior Sister Su Wanqing speaking with an elder from the Heavenly Sword Gate."
}

Actual output:

Li Fan walked into the grand hall of the Qingxuan Sect and saw his senior sister
Su Wanqing. She was talking to someone from the Heavenly Sword school.

I hope this translation captures the original meaning. The term 青玄宗 refers to
a fictional cultivation sect in the story. Let me know if you'd like me to adjust
the tone or style of the translation.

The model completely abandoned the JSON format, merged paragraphs, and added unsolicited commentary about its own translation. This is what happens when the instruction "output strictly as JSON" is competing with 4000 tokens of glossary for the model's attention.

Specific Models That Exhibit These Problems

These aren't hypothetical failures. Here are concrete models from the 2023–2024 era and their specific weaknesses in glossary-heavy translation tasks:

LLaMA 2 13B & 70B (Meta, July 2023)

• Training data: 2 trillion tokens of largely uncurated internet text
• Core problem: Basic SFT alignment with minimal RLHF. The model learned to approximate helpfulness but has no deep understanding of constraint-following.
• Glossary behavior: The 13B variant starts ignoring glossary entries after approximately 30–40 terms in the system prompt. The 70B is better but still degrades noticeably past 100 terms. Both variants love to inject meta-commentary ("Here's my translation:") even when explicitly told not to.
• Name consistency: Poor. Defaults to inconsistent romanization because its training data contains multiple romanization systems (Pinyin, Wade-Giles, informal) and it can't maintain commitment to one.

Mistral 7B v0.1 (Mistral AI, September 2023)

• Training data: Undisclosed size, but optimized for efficiency over breadth
• Core problem: Extremely fast and capable for its size, but its effective context utilization collapses once the system prompt exceeds ~1500 tokens. This is well-documented in community benchmarks.
• Glossary behavior: Works great with 10–20 terms. At 50+, it starts "forgetting" entries from the beginning of the glossary (classic positional attention decay). At 100+, it's essentially ignoring the glossary entirely and free-translating.
• Name consistency: Moderate with short prompts, catastrophic with long ones. The "Li Fan → Lifan → Lee Fan → LiFanKing" failure pattern in the table above was from an actual Mistral 7B test.

Yi-34B (01.AI, November 2023)

• Training data: Bilingual (English/Chinese) at a larger scale, marketed as strong for CJK tasks
• Core problem: Despite being 34B parameters, its attention architecture wasn't optimized for maintaining long-range mappings. It's good at understanding Chinese text but bad at consistently applying external rules to that understanding.
• Glossary behavior: Picks up glossary entries well for the first ~500 tokens of generation, then progressively drifts. By the end of a long chapter translation, it's operating almost entirely from its pre-trained knowledge, not the glossary.
• Name consistency: The "Azure Mystery Sect" hallucination from the table above was Yi-34B. It doesn't just forget the glossary — it replaces your terms with its own "better" translations.

Qwen1.5-32B (Alibaba, April 2024)

• Training data: Large-scale multilingual with emphasis on Chinese
• Core problem: Strong Chinese language understanding, but its RLHF alignment optimized for helpfulness over obedience. It wants to be creative and add value, which is exactly what you don't want in a glossary-constrained translation.
• Glossary behavior: Better than Yi-34B for short glossaries. But for 100+ terms, it exhibits a unique failure: it starts merging glossary entries. If your glossary has both 天剑门 → Heavenly Sword Gate and 天魔宗 → Celestial Demon Sect, Qwen will sometimes output "Heavenly Demon Gate" — a chimera of two separate entries.
• Name consistency: Acceptable for main characters, poor for secondary characters that appear infrequently.

The Solution: Dynamic Glossary Injection

The fix is conceptually simple: don't send what the model doesn't need.

How It Works

┌─────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│           GLOBAL GLOSSARY (1000 terms)      │
│  李凡 → Li Fan                              │
│  苏婉清 → Su Wanqing                        │
│  青玄宗 → Qingxuan Sect                     │
│  天剑门 → Heavenly Sword Gate               │
│  混沌珠 → Chaos Pearl                        │
│  ... (995 more)                             │
└──────────────────┬──────────────────────────┘
                   │
                   ▼
┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│         PYTHON PRE-FILTER (per chunk)        │
│                                              │
│  Scan Chapter 10 text...                     │
│  Found: 李凡 ✓  苏婉清 ✗  青玄宗 ✓           │
│  天剑门 ✗  混沌珠 ✗                           │
│                                              │
│  Result: only 2 terms matched                │
└──────────────────┬──────────────────────────┘
                   │
                   ▼
┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│          DYNAMIC PROMPT (sent to LLM)        │
│                                              │
│  [base translation instruction]              │
│                                              │
│  Required translations:                      │
│    - 李凡 → Li Fan                           │
│    - 青玄宗 → Qingxuan Sect                  │
│                                              │
│  Text to translate:                          │
│    [Chapter 10 raw text]                     │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────┘

Instead of 1000 terms bloating the prompt, the model sees 2 terms. Its entire attention budget is free to focus on translation quality and formatting compliance.

Production-Ready Python Implementation

import re
from dataclasses import dataclass, field

@dataclass
class GlossaryConfig:
    """Configuration for dynamic glossary injection behavior."""
    max_entries: int = 50          # Hard cap on injected terms per chunk
    case_sensitive: bool = True    # Whether Latin-script matching is case-sensitive
    warn_on_cap: bool = True       # Log a warning if the cap is hit

# Pre-compiled regex: detects CJK characters (Chinese, Japanese Kanji, Korean Hanja)
_CJK_PATTERN = re.compile(r'[\u4e00-\u9fff\u3040-\u30ff\uac00-\ud7af]')

def _is_cjk_term(term: str) -> bool:
    """Check if a glossary term contains CJK characters."""
    return bool(_CJK_PATTERN.search(term))

def _build_latin_pattern(term: str, case_sensitive: bool) -> re.Pattern:
    """
    Build a word-boundary regex for Latin-script terms.
    Word boundaries prevent partial matches:
    e.g., "Fan" won't match inside "Fantasy"
    """
    flags = 0 if case_sensitive else re.IGNORECASE
    return re.compile(rf'\b{re.escape(term)}\b', flags)

def filter_glossary(
    chunk_text: str,
    global_glossary: dict[str, str],
    config: GlossaryConfig | None = None,
) -> dict[str, str]:
    """
    Scan a text chunk and return only the glossary terms that appear in it.
    
    Args:
        chunk_text:       The raw source-language text for this chunk.
        global_glossary:  Full mapping of {source_term: translated_term}.
        config:           Optional configuration overrides.
        
    Returns:
        A filtered dict containing only the terms found in chunk_text.
    """
    if config is None:
        config = GlossaryConfig()

    matched: dict[str, str] = {}

    for source_term, translated_term in global_glossary.items():
        if _is_cjk_term(source_term):
            # CJK: direct substring match (word boundaries don't apply)
            if source_term in chunk_text:
                matched[source_term] = translated_term
        else:
            # Latin/other: word-boundary regex to avoid partial matches
            pattern = _build_latin_pattern(source_term, config.case_sensitive)
            if pattern.search(chunk_text):
                matched[source_term] = translated_term

        if len(matched) >= config.max_entries:
            if config.warn_on_cap:
                print(
                    f"[glossary] Hit cap of {config.max_entries} entries. "
                    f"Remaining terms skipped for this chunk."
                )
            break

    return matched

def build_prompt(
    chunk_text: str,
    global_glossary: dict[str, str],
    base_prompt: str,
    config: GlossaryConfig | None = None,
) -> str:
    """
    Assemble a complete translation prompt with dynamic glossary injection.
    
    Args:
        chunk_text:       The raw source text to be translated.
        global_glossary:  Full glossary mapping.
        base_prompt:      The base system/instruction prompt for the LLM.
        config:           Optional glossary filtering configuration.
        
    Returns:
        A fully assembled prompt string ready for the model.
    """
    filtered = filter_glossary(chunk_text, global_glossary, config)

    # No matches → clean prompt without glossary section
    if not filtered:
        return f"{base_prompt}\n\nText to translate:\n{chunk_text}"

    # Build the glossary instruction block
    glossary_lines = "\n".join(
        f"  - {src} → {tgt}" for src, tgt in filtered.items()
    )

    glossary_block = (
        "### Required Translations\n"
        "Use these exact translations. Do not deviate, paraphrase, or improvise alternatives.\n\n"
        f"{glossary_lines}"
    )

    return (
        f"{base_prompt}\n\n"
        f"{glossary_block}\n\n"
        f"---\n\n"
        f"Text to translate:\n{chunk_text}"
    )

# ── Usage Example ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
if __name__ == "__main__":
    GLOSSARY = {
        "李凡": "Li Fan",
        "苏婉清": "Su Wanqing",
        "青玄宗": "Qingxuan Sect",
        "天剑门": "Heavenly Sword Gate",
        "混沌珠": "Chaos Pearl",
        "白云老人": "Elder Baiyun",
        # ... hundreds more
    }

    BASE_PROMPT = (
        "You are a professional Chinese-to-English literary translator. "
        "Translate the following text naturally while preserving narrative tone. "
        "Use the required translations exactly as provided. "
        "Output only the translated text, no commentary."
    )

    sample_chunk = "李凡走入青玄宗的大殿，殿内灯火通明，空气中弥漫着檀香的味道。"
    prompt = build_prompt(sample_chunk, GLOSSARY, BASE_PROMPT)
    print(prompt)

What this fixes vs. the naive approach:

Issue	Naive Script	This Implementation
Partial matches (Fan inside Fantasy)	❌ No boundary check	✅ \b word boundaries for Latin
CJK matching	❌ Same regex as Latin (broken)	✅ Separate CJK path with substring match
Prompt bloat from dense chapters	❌ No limit	✅ Configurable max_entries cap
Readability / maintainability	❌ Single function, no types	✅ Typed dataclass config, separated concerns
Korean/Japanese support	❌ Only Chinese range	✅ Full CJK unified + Hangul + Kana ranges

Why 2026-Era Models Change Everything

The local model landscape in early 2026 is fundamentally different from 2023–2024. This isn't incremental improvement — it's a paradigm shift in how small models are trained.

What Changed: Distillation + Synthetic Data + Reinforcement Learning

Old models (2023–2024) were trained with a simple recipe:

1. Pre-train on trillions of tokens of raw internet text (Wikipedia, Reddit, Common Crawl, books)
2. Fine-tune on instruction-following datasets (often human-written, inconsistent quality)
3. Apply light RLHF (Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback) to reduce toxicity
   New models (late 2025–2026) use a radically different approach:
4. A massive "teacher" model (100B–600B+ parameters) generates synthetic training data — millions of high-quality reasoning chains, structured outputs, and translation examples
5. A tiny "student" model (1B–3B parameters) is trained to replicate the teacher's reasoning process, not just its answers
6. Multi-stage reinforcement learning (GRPO, rule-based reward models) further refines the student's ability to follow complex, multi-constraint instructions
   The result: a 1.5B model in 2026 can reliably do things that a 32B model in 2024 couldn't.

Side-by-Side Comparison

Task: NER Extraction (Structured JSON Output)

Prompt:

Extract all character names and organization names from this Chinese text.
Output strictly as a JSON array of objects.
Each object must have exactly two keys: "type" (either "person" or "org") and "name" (in original Chinese).
Output ONLY the JSON array. No other text, no explanation, no markdown formatting.

Input text:

李凡走入青玄宗的大殿，看见了师姐苏婉清正在与天剑门的长老交谈。旁边站着一位身穿黑袍的陌生男子，自称来自血魔宫。

❌ Yi-34B (November 2023) output:

Here are the characters and organizations I found in the text:
Characters:
• 李凡 (Li Fan) - the protagonist
• 苏婉清 (Su Wanqing) - his senior sister
• An unnamed man in black robes from the Blood Demon Palace
Organizations:
• 青玄宗 (Qingxuan Sect)
• 天剑门 (Heavenly Sword Gate)
• 血魔宫 (Blood Demon Palace)
JSON format:
[
{"type": "person", "name": "Li Fan"},
{"type": "person", "name": "Su Wanqing"},
{"type": "org", "name": "Qingxuan Sect"},
{"type": "org", "name": "Heavenly Sword Gate"},
{"type": "org", "name": "Blood Demon Palace"}
]
Note: The unnamed man is not included as his name is not mentioned in the text.

Problems:

• Added commentary before and after the JSON (explicitly told not to)
• Translated the names to English (told to keep original Chinese)
• Added a "Note" explaining its reasoning (not asked for)
• The JSON is buried inside prose, making automated parsing a nightmare
  ❌ Qwen1.5-32B (April 2024) output:

[
{"type": "person", "name": "李凡"},
{"type": "person", "name": "苏婉清"},
{"type": "org", "name": "青玄宗"},
{"type": "org", "name": "天剑门"},
{"type": "org", "name": "血魔宫"},
{"type": "person", "name": "黑袍男子", "note": "unnamed, described as wearing black robes"}
]

Problems:

• Added a "note" key that wasn't in the schema (schema said exactly two keys)
• Invented a "name" for the unnamed character (黑袍男子 = "black-robed man" — this isn't a name, it's a description)
• Close, but would break any downstream JSON parser expecting a strict schema
  ✅ DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-1.5B (JanuarY/February 2025) output:

[
{"type": "person", "name": "李凡"},
{"type": "person", "name": "苏婉清"},
{"type": "org", "name": "青玄宗"},
{"type": "org", "name": "天剑门"},
{"type": "org", "name": "血魔宫"}
]

Perfect. Clean JSON. Exact schema. No commentary. No invented entries. No translated names. Correctly excluded the unnamed character (who has no extractable name). From a 1.5B model — roughly 22x smaller than the Qwen1.5-32B that couldn't get it right.

Task: Translation With Glossary Constraint

Prompt:

Translate the following Chinese text to English.
Use these exact translations — do not deviate:
• 李凡 → Li Fan
• 青玄宗 → Qingxuan Sect
Output only the translated text.

Input:

李凡看着青玄宗的山门，心中百感交集。这是他第三次踏入这片土地，每一次都带着不同的心情。

❌ Mistral 7B v0.1 (September 2023):

Lifan looked at the mountain gate of the Azure Profound Sect with mixed feelings. This was his third time setting foot on this land, each time with a different mood.

Ignored both glossary entries. "Li Fan" became "Lifan" (merged). "Qingxuan Sect" became "Azure Profound Sect" (free-translated).
❌ LLaMA 2 13B (July 2023):

Lee Fan gazed upon the gates of Qingxuan Sect, his heart filled with a hundred emotions. It was the third time he had entered this land, and each visit carried a different feeling in his heart.
(Note: 百感交集 literally means "a hundred feelings intertwined," which I've translated as "a hundred emotions" to preserve the poetic quality.)

Got "Qingxuan Sect" right but mangled "Li Fan" → "Lee Fan." Also added an unsolicited translation note despite being told "output only the translated text."
✅ Gemma 4 E2B (April 2026):

Li Fan looked at the mountain gate of the Qingxuan Sect, his heart a tangle of emotions. This was the third time he had set foot on this land, and each time he carried a different feeling.

Both glossary terms applied correctly. No commentary. Natural prose. Clean output. From a 1B model.

The Decoupled Pipeline Architecture

Given these capabilities, the optimal approach separates the translation pipeline into specialized stages:

┌────────────────────┐     ┌────────────────────┐     ┌────────────────────┐
│   STAGE 1: NER     │     │  STAGE 2: FILTER   │     │ STAGE 3: TRANSLATE │
│                    │     │                    │     │                    │
│ Model: 1.5B        │────▶│ Script: Python     │────▶│ Model: 7B–14B      │
│ (reasoning distill)│     │ (dynamic glossary) │     │(literary fine-tune)│
│                    │     │                    │     │                    │
│ Input: raw chapter │     │ Input: NER output  │     │ Input: chunk text  │
│ Output: JSON array │     │   + global glossary│     │   + mini glossary  │
│   of entities      │     │ Output: filtered   │     │ Output: translated │
│                    │     │   term list        │     │   text             │
└────────────────────┘     └────────────────────┘     └────────────────────┘

Why Decoupling Works

Concern	Single-Model Approach	Decoupled Pipeline
NER accuracy	Model distracted by translation task	Dedicated model, 100% focused on extraction
Translation quality	Model distracted by NER + glossary overhead	Receives pre-filtered mini-glossary, full attention on prose
Glossary consistency	Degrades with prompt length	Guaranteed by Python filter (deterministic, not probabilistic)
Hardware requirements	Need 30B+ to do both tasks acceptably	1.5B for NER + 7B for translation = runs on a single consumer GPU
Failure isolation	One failure corrupts everything	NER failure doesn't affect translation, and vice versa

Next Steps

I'd love to follow your progress on the project, or help test things out locally if you plan to merge it later. Do you have a Discord server or any other channel where we could dig deeper into the tech stack?
Let me know! 🚀

[Ardelox]

I actually made an account just to reply to this thread.

I'm a translator too, and I got so tired of clunky chatbot workflows that I built my own translation engine: LA-CATE (Lexis-Aware Context-Adaptive Translation Engine). My pride and joy.

But honestly? Most of your problems come down to one thing: you're using local models.

My system runs a master glossary of 30000 terms (32410 if to be precise) — and I experience none of the consistency issues you're describing. Zero prompt dilution, zero hallucinated names. You know why? Because I'm not fighting the model's attention limits, I'm using a model that actually has them.

There are plenty of very cheap, capable models on OpenRouter that handle translation dramatically better than anything you can run locally or free ones. I'm not going to hand you a list — do your research — but the economics are simple: spend a little, get consistent results, make it back. That's what I do.

You don't need expensive models for translation. You just need to stop using bad ones.

[briandyy]

Hi @Ardelox,

Thanks for the perspective. I think your main point is fair: model quality matters a lot, and stronger hosted models can definitely reduce many of the consistency and instruction-following problems that happen with smaller local models.

Note

I also want to clarify something about my earlier comments: some of my wording may have sounded more implementation-specific than I intended. I am mainly approaching this from a user/workflow perspective, not as someone claiming to know the best internal architecture for this project. My goal is to explain a practical long-form translation problem and why I think glossary management would be useful for this repository.

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TL;DR

I agree that better models help a lot, especially hosted models through providers like OpenRouter or other API backends.

But I do not think that means glossary management is unnecessary.

For very long translation projects, especially web novels with hundreds or thousands of chapters, users still need a persistent way to manage names and terminology across the whole project. A better model can improve translation quality, but a glossary system improves consistency, control, repeatability, cost efficiency, and resumability.

The ideal approach, in my opinion, is not:

“Use better models instead of glossary management.”

It is more like:

“Use the best model available, but also give the translation pipeline proper glossary management so long projects stay consistent over time.”

A stronger model, a project glossary, dynamic per-chunk injection, checkpoint integration, and prompt caching can all work together instead of competing with each other.

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My actual user-side problem

From my side as a user, the core issue is simple:

Important

Long translation projects need stable terminology.

When a novel has hundreds or thousands of chapters, inconsistent names become a serious problem. A character name, sect name, location, item, technique, title, organization, artifact, cultivation realm, or recurring phrase may appear again and again across the entire story.

If the model translates the same term differently in later chapters, the reading experience becomes confusing very quickly.

For example, even a small inconsistency like one character name being rendered several different ways can make it feel like there are multiple different characters. The same applies to sects, locations, artifacts, skills, cultivation techniques, seniority titles, and recurring organizations.

In a short document, this may be manageable manually. In a long web novel, it becomes painful.

That is why I am interested in glossary management. Not because I think glossary management magically solves all translation problems, but because it gives the user a way to control recurring terminology over a very long project.

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Better models help, but they do not replace project-level terminology management

I agree with your broader point that stronger hosted models can dramatically improve translation quality. If someone is using a strong model through OpenRouter or another hosted provider, the output will usually be much better than what a small local model can produce.

But I think there are two related but different problems here:

Area	What it affects
Model quality	Fluency, accuracy, instruction-following, natural prose, fewer hallucinations
Glossary / terminology management	Long-term consistency, user-approved names, project memory, import/export, checkpoint continuity

A better model helps the first part a lot.

But the second part is still useful even with a better model.

For example, even if the model is strong, users may still want to decide:

• this character name should always be translated this way,
• this sect name should never be paraphrased,
• this location name should stay consistent,
• this item or technique should use the approved translation,
• this title should be translated consistently across chapters,
• this glossary should be reused when a job is paused and resumed,
• this project glossary should be exportable and reusable later.

That is the part I think matters most: a glossary system is not only a crutch for weaker models. It is also a project-level terminology layer.

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Why this still matters for TranslateBooksWithLLMs specifically

TranslateBooksWithLLMs supports different types of backends and workflows. Some users may use stronger hosted models. Other users may use local models through Ollama or similar setups because of cost, privacy, offline use, hardware experimentation, or simply because they prefer not to depend on paid APIs.

So I think an optional glossary system would be useful across many different setups.

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Strong hosted models may need less help from a glossary, but they can still benefit from cleaner prompts, lower token usage, and user-controlled terminology.

Weaker/local models may need glossary support much more because smaller models are usually more sensitive to long prompts and complex instructions.

This is why I do not see glossary management as something that only exists to “fix bad local models.” I see it as a useful feature for long-form translation workflows in general.

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About LA-CATE

About LA-CATE: I do not know how your system works internally, so I do not want to make assumptions.

If it can reliably manage a 30k+ term glossary, that is genuinely impressive.

I also do not know whether LA-CATE is designed mainly for certain language pairs, or whether it handles many language pairs equally well, such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian, English, Indonesian, etc. I am especially curious about Chinese-style web novel terminology because names, sects, locations, techniques, cultivation titles, artifacts, and organizations can be ambiguous and easy to translate inconsistently.

What I would be curious about at a high level is whether LA-CATE handles its large glossary by:

• injecting the full glossary directly,
• retrieving only relevant terms for each segment,
• filtering terms per chapter/chunk,
• validating the translation after generation,
• applying post-processing,
• using prompt/context caching,
• or combining several of those methods.

I am not asking for private code, private prompts, or your model list. I just think the distinction matters for this feature discussion.

When you say your system has a 30,000+ term master glossary, that could mean different things architecturally.

It could mean the entire glossary is sent to the model every time.

Or it could mean the system stores 30,000+ terms globally, but only sends the relevant terms for the current chapter, chunk, or segment.

If it is the second case, then it is actually close in spirit to the dynamic glossary idea I was suggesting.

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The key idea: do not inject thousands of unused terms

This is the main point I wanted to explain more clearly:

Important

The system does not need to inject the full glossary into every prompt.

If a chapter only contains 3 relevant glossary terms, then ideally the model should only receive those 3 terms, not 3,000 unrelated terms.

For example, imagine the project glossary contains thousands of terms:

• character names,
• sect names,
• places,
• artifacts,
• techniques,
• titles,
• cultivation realms,
• organizations,
• recurring phrases,
• special terminology.

But the current chapter only contains:

• Li Fan,
• Qingxuan Sect,
• Chaos Pearl.

In that case, the prompt should not need to include thousands of unrelated glossary entries. It should only include the few terms that actually appear in the current chunk.

That is what I mean by dynamic glossary injection.

The full glossary can still exist at the project level, but the model only receives the relevant subset for the current translation request.

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Why 3 relevant terms is better than 3,000 irrelevant terms

This matters for several reasons.

1. Cleaner prompts

A smaller glossary section means the model receives fewer irrelevant constraints.

Instead of asking the model to process thousands of names and terms that do not appear in the current chapter, the prompt only contains what matters for the current chunk.

That should make the translation instruction easier to follow.

2. Less prompt noise

Even strong models can be affected by unnecessary context. A large prompt may be technically within the context window, but that does not automatically mean every part of it is useful.

A prompt with only relevant terms is easier to reason about, easier to debug, and easier to reproduce.

3. Faster processing

Sending a smaller prompt should generally be faster because there is less input for the model/provider to process before generation begins.

Even if a large-context hosted model can handle a huge glossary, repeatedly sending thousands of unused terms still creates unnecessary overhead.

4. Lower cost for paid models

If the provider charges by input tokens, then sending 3 relevant glossary entries is obviously cheaper than sending thousands of entries when only 3 are needed.

This matters a lot for long novels because the same process may repeat hundreds or thousands of times.

A small amount of wasted prompt text in one request becomes a large amount of wasted cost across an entire long-form translation project.

5. Better behavior for local or weaker models

For small local models, keeping the prompt short and focused is even more important.

A local model may struggle if it has to follow translation instructions, formatting rules, and thousands of glossary entries at the same time.

Dynamic injection reduces the amount of information competing for attention in each request.

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Prompt caching can complement this idea

There is also another important point: prompt/context caching.

Some modern AI providers support prompt caching or context caching, where repeated prompt sections can be reused more cheaply and/or with lower latency. Depending on the provider and implementation, cached input can sometimes be much cheaper than normal input, with some systems advertising savings up to around 90% for cache hits.

That could be very useful for translation pipelines.

But I do not think caching replaces dynamic glossary injection. I think they work well together.

A good setup could look like this:

1. Keep the stable base translation instruction mostly unchanged.
2. Let providers cache the repeated base instruction when supported.
3. Store the full project glossary separately.
4. For each chunk, inject only the glossary terms that actually appear in that chunk.
5. Avoid repeatedly sending thousands of unrelated glossary entries.

So the stable part of the prompt can benefit from caching, while the dynamic glossary section stays small and relevant.

That seems useful for both hosted-model workflows and local/offline workflows.

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Caching helps repeated prompt sections.

Dynamic glossary injection helps reduce irrelevant per-chunk prompt content.

They solve different parts of the cost/efficiency problem and can be combined.

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What I imagine as a practical user-facing feature

From a user perspective, the feature does not need to be extremely complex at first.

Even a simple version would already help a lot.

1. Project-level glossary

Each translation project could have a glossary file or database entry.

The glossary could store things like:

• source term,
• approved translation,
• category/type,
• optional notes,
• maybe whether the term is user-approved or auto-detected.

Example categories could include:

• character,
• location,
• sect/organization,
• item/artifact,
• technique/skill,
• title/rank,
• cultivation realm,
• custom.

2. Import/export

Users should be able to import and export glossaries as JSON or CSV.

This is useful because users may want to:

• edit the glossary externally,
• back it up,
• reuse it for another run,
• share it with another user,
• or manually fix terms in a spreadsheet-like workflow.

3. Manual editing

The user should be able to add, remove, rename, or correct terms manually.

This is important because automatic extraction will never be perfect. A user may know that a term should be translated a certain way because of context from later chapters, fandom convention, previous translations, or personal preference.

4. Optional auto-extraction

The tool could optionally scan chapters and suggest candidate terms.

This does not need to be perfect. Even if it only gives a rough first draft, it saves the user time.

The user can then approve or reject the suggested terms.

5. Per-chunk matching

Before translating a chunk, the system checks which glossary terms appear in that chunk.

Only those matching terms are injected into the prompt.

This avoids sending a massive glossary every time.

6. Checkpoint integration

The active glossary should be saved with the translation job/checkpoint.

This matters because long translation jobs may be paused and resumed. If the glossary context is lost when resuming, consistency can break.

7. Optional validation after translation

After a chunk is translated, the tool could optionally check whether required glossary terms were followed.

For example, if the glossary says a term must be translated as Qingxuan Sect, but the output says Azure Mystery Sect, the tool could flag that chunk for review.

It does not necessarily need to auto-fix everything at first. Even a warning would help.

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Why this is useful even with strong hosted models

A strong model may follow instructions better, but the glossary system still gives the user control.

For paid/API workflows, glossary management can help by:

• reducing repeated manual prompt editing,
• reducing unnecessary input tokens,
• making terminology choices explicit,
• improving consistency across many requests,
• making resumed jobs more predictable,
• making mistakes easier to debug,
• allowing user-approved terms to persist across the whole project.

For local workflows, it can also help by:

• reducing prompt overload,
• making smaller models less likely to ignore instructions,
• keeping each request focused,
• making translation more practical on limited hardware.

So I think the feature helps both groups, just in different ways.

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Why this fits long-form translation

TranslateBooksWithLLMs is already useful because it focuses on long-form translation workflows rather than just single chatbot messages.

Long-form translation is different from translating one paragraph in a chat window.

A long project needs:

• chunking,
• formatting preservation,
• resumability,
• consistency across many requests,
• stable terminology,
• project-level memory,
• and user control over recurring names/terms.

Glossary management feels like a natural extension of that.

It is not only about making one chunk better. It is about making the entire project consistent over time.

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My suggested middle ground

I am not saying the project needs a huge advanced system immediately.

A reasonable middle ground could be:

1. Add a simple project glossary first.
2. Allow manual import/export/editing.
3. Add per-chunk glossary filtering.
4. Save the active glossary with checkpoints.
5. Later, optionally add NER-based auto-extraction.
6. Later, optionally add validation or post-processing.

This way the feature can grow gradually.

Users with strong hosted models can use it lightly.

Users with local models can rely on it more heavily.

The project does not have to assume one model type, one provider, or one workflow.

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Final thought

So yes, I agree that using better models can dramatically improve translation quality.

But I do not think the conclusion should be:

“Better models make glossary management unnecessary.”

I think the better conclusion is:

Important

Better models improve the translation, while glossary management improves the project’s consistency and user control.

A good translation workflow can benefit from all of these at once:

• capable hosted models when available,
• local/offline models when users prefer them,
• project-level glossary storage,
• dynamic per-chunk glossary injection,
• checkpoint integration,
• optional validation,
• and prompt caching where supported.

That is why I still think this feature would be valuable for TranslateBooksWithLLMs, especially for users translating very long novels or documents with many recurring names, places, techniques, organizations, and terms.

[hydropix]

Hi @briandyy and @Ardelox,

Thanks for the detailed back-and-forth. The two-pass NER + glossary management you proposed is now in main (tagged v1.1.0), and most of the mitigations from briandyy's dynamic-injection comment ended up driving the final design.

What shipped

Glossary CRUD in the Web UI

• New Glossaries tab: create, edit, delete, duplicate glossaries with a name + source/target language pair.
• Add terms manually, or Import a JSON/CSV your translation group already maintains.
• Export to JSON/CSV (the CLI consumes these files directly).
• Bulk actions, plus a live "Preview block" endpoint that shows the exact prompt fragment the LLM will receive for any sample chunk.

Auto-extract (NER)

• Accepts .txt, .srt, .epub, .docx (up to 100 MB).
• Distributes 1-50 evenly-spaced excerpts across the document (default 10, total budget 6000 chars). Excerpt edges snap to whitespace so it doesn't cut mid-word.
• Reuses whatever provider you've configured for translation (Ollama, Gemini, OpenAI, OpenRouter, Mistral, DeepSeek, Poe, NVIDIA NIM). Returns {source, target, category} candidates inside <NER_JSON>...</NER_JSON> tags, with a permissive parser that falls back to fenced JSON / balanced arrays. Reasoning models' <think> blocks are stripped.
• Review table with editable target, category dropdown, dimming for source == target, and (already in glossary) tags. Add selected ships the whole batch in one transaction.
• Re-running on the same file is the recommended flow: each pass samples different excerpts and surfaces what was missed.

Dynamic per-chunk injection (briandyy, this is your point exactly)

• Filter scans each translation chunk and injects only the entries that actually appear.
• Latin terms: word-boundary match (Fan does not match Fantasy).
• CJK terms: substring match.
• Cap of 50 entries per chunk; on overflow, most-frequent wins. Sorted longest-first so Li Fanqing is checked before Li Fan.
• A 30K-term master glossary like @Ardelox describes would inject only the handful of names present in the current chunk. No prompt dilution.

Categories

• character, location, organization, item, title, other. Rendered as bracketed hints (Li Fanqing -> Li Fanqing [character]) used by the model for disambiguation only.

Inflected languages (bonus, for Russian / German / Polish source texts)

• Sources can declare alternative surface forms separated by |:

  { "source": "Москва|Москве|Москвы|Москвой|Москву", "target": "Moscow", "category": "location" }

• One entry covers every declined form. The block presents them as a comma-separated list so the LLM reads them as one entity.

Storage

• Dedicated SQLite file data/glossaries.db, separate from jobs.db (translation checkpoints). One-shot idempotent migration on first start copies any existing glossary tables over. Splitting them eliminated the write-lock contention that briefly happened when both shared a file during long translations.

CLI

python translate.py -i book.epub -o book_fr.epub -sl English -tl French --glossary glossary.json

The CLI loads JSON/CSV directly without touching the database, so the canonical workflow is: build in the Web UI, Export to JSON, run long translations in the terminal.

Quick try

1. Pull main (or grab v1.1.0), run python translation_api.py.
2. Glossaries tab -> New -> set the language pair.
3. Auto-extract on your novel's EPUB. Review, Add selected.
4. Translate tab -> pick the glossary in the dropdown -> Translate.

Full guide with workflows (long novels, subtitles, mid-translation correction, inflected languages): docs/GLOSSARY.md.

On model quality

@Ardelox, you're right that a strong hosted model goes a long way and the glossary system isn't a substitute for that. The two stack: dynamic injection + 50-entry cap means a 30K-term project glossary works fine on Claude/GPT/Gemini through OpenRouter without paying for token bloat on every chunk.

Thanks

@briandyy, your dynamic-injection writeup matched the implementation beat for beat. Closing this issue but happy to keep iterating, particularly around auto-extract quality on short excerpts and category guidance for non-fiction.