diff --git a/CHANGELOG.rst b/CHANGELOG.rst
index 8ad5d3d42..0cdc8e3f4 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.rst
+++ b/CHANGELOG.rst
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ CHANGELOG
 
 - Move from travis to github actions [lferran]
 
+- Install managers group by default [lferran]
 
 6.0.0b3 (2020-04-24)
 --------------------
diff --git a/guillotina/auth/groups.py b/guillotina/auth/groups.py
index f07edb9ee..4fe61923b 100644
--- a/guillotina/auth/groups.py
+++ b/guillotina/auth/groups.py
@@ -6,6 +6,15 @@
 import typing
 
 
+MANAGER_ROLES = [
+    "guillotina.ContainerAdmin",
+    "guillotina.ContainerDeleter",
+    "guillotina.Owner",
+    "guillotina.Member",
+    "guillotina.Manager",
+]
+
+
 class GuillotinaGroup(GuillotinaUser):
     def __init__(self, ident):
         super(GuillotinaGroup, self).__init__(ident)
@@ -13,11 +22,8 @@ def __init__(self, ident):
 
         if ident == "Managers":
             # Special Case its a Root Manager user
-            self._roles["guillotina.ContainerAdmin"] = 1
-            self._roles["guillotina.ContainerDeleter"] = 1
-            self._roles["guillotina.Owner"] = 1
-            self._roles["guillotina.Member"] = 1
-            self._roles["guillotina.Manager"] = 1
+            for role in MANAGER_ROLES:
+                self._roles[role] = 1
 
 
 @configure.utility(provides=IGroups)
diff --git a/guillotina/contrib/dbusers/install.py b/guillotina/contrib/dbusers/install.py
index 8bcc90837..d2048e37c 100644
--- a/guillotina/contrib/dbusers/install.py
+++ b/guillotina/contrib/dbusers/install.py
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 from guillotina import configure
 from guillotina.addons import Addon
+from guillotina.auth.groups import MANAGER_ROLES
 from guillotina.content import create_content_in_container
 from guillotina.interfaces import ILayers
 from guillotina.utils import get_authenticated_user_id
@@ -19,9 +20,21 @@ async def install(self, site, request):
         await create_content_in_container(
             site, "UserManager", "users", creators=(user,), title="Users", check_constraints=False
         )
-        await create_content_in_container(
+        groups = await create_content_in_container(
             site, "GroupManager", "groups", creators=(user,), title="Groups", check_constraints=False
         )
+        users = {"root", user}
+        await create_content_in_container(
+            groups,
+            "Group",
+            "Managers",
+            creators=(user,),
+            title="Managers",
+            name="Managers",
+            description="Container managers",
+            user_roles=MANAGER_ROLES,
+            users=list(users),
+        )
 
     @classmethod
     async def uninstall(self, site, request):
diff --git a/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_manage_groups.py b/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_manage_groups.py
index cf4b745ec..731a81725 100644
--- a/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_manage_groups.py
+++ b/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_manage_groups.py
@@ -24,8 +24,8 @@ async def test_ensure_crud_groups(dbusers_requester, user_data):
         assert status_code == 201
         resp, status_code = await requester("GET", "/db/guillotina/@groups")
         assert status_code == 200
-        assert len(resp) == 1
-        assert resp[0]["groupname"] == "foo"
+        assert len(resp) == 2
+        assert resp[1]["groupname"] == "foo" or resp[0]["groupname"] == "foo"
 
         data = {"roles": {"guillotina.Manager": True, "guillotina.Tester": True, "guillotina.Bad": False}}
 
@@ -78,23 +78,24 @@ async def test_ensure_crud_groups(dbusers_requester, user_data):
 @pytest.mark.skipif(NOT_POSTGRES, reason="Only PG")
 async def test_list_groups_works_with_catalog(dbusers_requester, user_data):
     async with dbusers_requester as requester:
-        # Check initially there is no users
+        # Check initially there just one group
         resp, status_code = await requester("GET", "/db/guillotina/@groups")
         assert status_code == 200
-        assert len(resp) == 0
+        assert len(resp) == 1
 
-        # Add a user
+        # Add a group
         resp, status_code = await requester("POST", "/db/guillotina/groups", data=json.dumps(_group))
         assert status_code == 201
 
         # Check it gets listed
         resp, status_code = await requester("GET", "/db/guillotina/@groups")
         assert status_code == 200
-        assert len(resp) == 1
-        assert resp[0]["@name"]
-        assert resp[0]["title"]
-        assert isinstance(resp[0]["roles"], list)
-        assert isinstance(resp[0]["users"], list)
+        assert len(resp) == 2
+        for group in resp:
+            assert group["@name"]
+            assert group["title"]
+            assert isinstance(group["roles"], list)
+            assert isinstance(group["users"], list)
 
 
 @pytest.mark.app_settings(settings.DEFAULT_SETTINGS)
diff --git a/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_setup.py b/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_setup.py
index 39d13804c..55eb67d99 100644
--- a/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_setup.py
+++ b/guillotina/tests/dbusers/test_setup.py
@@ -1,4 +1,5 @@
 from . import settings
+from guillotina.auth.groups import MANAGER_ROLES
 from guillotina.tests.utils import get_container
 
 import pytest
@@ -15,3 +16,8 @@ async def test_users_and_groups_folders_are_created_on_install(dbusers_requester
         assert users.type_name == "UserManager"
         groups = await container.async_get("groups")
         assert groups.type_name == "GroupManager"
+        managers = await groups.async_get("Managers")
+        assert managers.type_name == "Group"
+        assert managers.title == "Managers"
+        assert managers.users == ["root"]
+        assert set(managers.user_roles) == set(MANAGER_ROLES)