Additional "things"

[paulklie]

I have been collecting a few ideas for further "things" that can be added in the things overlay:

• disc_golf=hole added things #6546
• disc_golf=tee added things #6546
• disc_golf=basket added things #6546
• golf=tee added things #6546
• golf=pin added things #6546
• golf=hole added things #6546
• historic = pillory added things #6546
• historic = tomb added things #6546
• seamark=mooring added things #6546
• aerialway =pylon added things #6546
• highway = hitchhiking

Feel free to also suggest your own, but make sure they are supported in the https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/tree/main/data/presets first.

[matkoniecz]

historic = tomb

if added then way to add non-historic tombs is also needed

[paulklie]

You mean man_made=tomb right?
Because that is not yet in the id-tagging preset data

[matkoniecz]

no idea what is the best tagging here

I faintly remember also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cemetery%3Dgrave

[westnordost]

A grave(stone?) is not yet included in Things. But I'd tentatively agree that a tombstone is a "thing".

[mnalis]

I'd also include man_made=beacon

[westnordost]

I'd not, it's already a small lighthouse, i.e. rather a structure than a "thing".

[mnalis]

Well, if it is big enough that a persons can walk in (i.e. what I'd call a structure), then it is indeed man_made=lighthouse (often also tagged with seamark:type=light_major)

I was thinking more of smaller beacons like this or this (i.e. seamark:type=light_minor) which are usually tagged with man_made=beacon.

But maybe you are right, and it should better be split into multiple (more detailed) id-tagging-schema presets 🤷‍♂️

[westnordost]

Note that I wrote

/** Small map features that are often mapped as points and usually cannot be entered.
*

• To demarcate this category from others, the following are not included:
• • structures that are big enough that they would rather be classified alongside buildings
• (e.g. water towers)
• • permanent features of the landscape (e.g. geysers, peaks, springs)
• • things that are features on other map features that wouldn't make sense on their own (e.g.
• crossings, traffic lights, entrances, golf holes)
• • things that should not be mapped as points - even if allowed - and landuses (e.g. car parks,
• dog parks, playgrounds)
  ...

So, I mentioned golf holes. But thinking a bit about this, I guess it could be added after all, along with disc golf stuff.

Regarding the others, we should have a well defined boundary to structures. So, a good reason to include one such feature would be if it is very similar to another that is already included. A good reason to exclude one such feature if it is (potentially) too big or similar to one that deliberately has not been included.

[paulklie]

How about marker=*. Currently only utility and power are supported by id-tagging: https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/tree/main/data/presets/marker

Wiki says:

Nevertheless, markers are installed to be seen and prevent damage at various distances from the feature they refer to. So it's not recommended to put markers directly on pipeline or cable ways, unless the marker is seen fixed on them.

So it should not be an issue if they cannot be added to the existing way.

[westnordost]

Sounds fine

[mnalis]

It would be super cool and practical to have a satellite view in the app...

@pablo09alt Thanks for the idea. Note however that this particular discussion is about specific StreetComplete feature called "Things Overlay" and not about all the cool "things" that the app could have 😃

That being said, for satellite view, see #56 as well as SCEE (StreetComplete "Expert edition" fork) which has that feature implemented.

[pablo09alt]

Oh sorry...

Ok thanks ! I will check this !