Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Does incubation rise to the level of Vision? #219

Closed
martinthomson opened this issue Dec 2, 2024 · 7 comments
Closed

Does incubation rise to the level of Vision? #219

martinthomson opened this issue Dec 2, 2024 · 7 comments
Assignees
Labels
Candidate to Close? Defer Deferred to future work needs AB input AB members need to weigh in Project Vision Vision and Principles

Comments

@martinthomson
Copy link
Member

There's a bullet point for Incubation in the Vision? Or is this better under a different title. I fear that the recent focus of the AB on incubation as a mechanism is either obscuring a more substantive issue or creating an item that does not belong on the same level as the other things.

Suggestion 1: Remove the bullet point entirely.
Suggestion 2: Give the bullet point a different title, one that focuses on the acquisition of new work for the organization.

I have a slight preference for the removal option. The relevance of the organization does depend on getting new work in, but this needs to be rooted in a technical vision, not an operational one.

@cwilso
Copy link
Collaborator

cwilso commented Dec 4, 2024

As per #220, I do think this principle is about much more than just a mechanism; it's about a recognition that the Web isn't done and it should continue to evolve, we should encourage that evolution, but that it must be done with caution and collaboration. I would not be in favor of removal.

@tantek tantek added the Project Vision Vision and Principles label Dec 6, 2024
@cwilso
Copy link
Collaborator

cwilso commented Jan 9, 2025

chair+editors have strong view this should be included.

@fantasai
Copy link
Contributor

fantasai commented Jan 16, 2025

Maybe it helps to explain the principle better? For example, how would you write the description of this principle if you couldn't use the word "incubation" in its own definition?

@cwilso cwilso self-assigned this Feb 14, 2025
@mgendler mgendler assigned mgendler and cwilso and unassigned cwilso and mgendler Feb 14, 2025
@cwilso
Copy link
Collaborator

cwilso commented Feb 15, 2025

With @fantasai 's comment in mind, I edited the description of the incubation principle as a proposal in #236. I do want to call out that the point of incubation is to be cautious and responsible in how we innovate in the web platform; it is not that we explicitly are attempting to acquire new work (a la #143).

I would recommend optionally taking the PR in #236, and closing this issue. I would object to removing the principle altogether.

@martinthomson
Copy link
Member Author

I think that #236 changes the focus in about the right way. I still have a problem with the jargon though. Can we use human words for the concept we really want to talk about? (Responsible development of new platform capabilities.)

@cwilso cwilso added needs AB input AB members need to weigh in Defer Deferred to future work Candidate to Close? labels Feb 26, 2025
@fantasai
Copy link
Contributor

fantasai commented Mar 6, 2025

+1 to @martinthomson's suggestion for s/breadth/capabilities/ fwiw.

@cwilso
Copy link
Collaborator

cwilso commented Mar 6, 2025

With #247 (review), AB resolved to close.

@cwilso cwilso closed this as completed Mar 6, 2025
Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
Candidate to Close? Defer Deferred to future work needs AB input AB members need to weigh in Project Vision Vision and Principles
Projects
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

5 participants