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remove rdf:plainLiteral from Semantics? #84
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It should not be RDF Concepts because RDF Concepts does not have (RDF 1.0) "plain literals". Support is optional by the "when ... rdf:plainLiteral isrecognized".
The existence of a normative document means that an alternative interpretation of the datatype IRI is wrong; the existence of the document does not have to be mentioned. c.f. |
This was discussed during the #rdf-star meeting on 27 February 2025. View the transcriptRemove rdf:plainLiteral from Semantics? 2ora: This issue was opened by pfps <pfps> sorry, I'm late <pfps> one moment to fix audio <pfps> fixed now gkellogg: related to that, there is an PR on removing ... PlainLiteral from RDF/XML <pfps> As I see, there are several options - deprecate, remove and note, ... gkellogg: when that PR is merged, there is no reference anymore to plainLiteral in the RDF/XML spec pfps: RDF 1.1 fixed the issue, but plainLiteral remained in the Semantics doc AndyS: Remove it and leave a change node. pfps: With this rationale, rdf:JSON should go too, because it is also just a datatype AndyS: but that one is not in RDF-Semantics, right? pfps: Yes. In this sense it's different. <ora> PROPOSAL: Remove rdf:plainLiteral from Semantics doc and add a change note <Dominik_T> +1 <ora> +1 <gkellogg> +1 <AZ> +1 <tl> +1 <olaf> +1 <fsasaki> +1 <ktk> +1 <AndyS> +1 <pfps> +0 <james> +0 <TallTed> +1 <Souri> +1 <pchampin> +1 <gtw> +1 <niklasl> +1 pchampin: Any objection to replacing "remove" by "deprecate"? <eBremer> +1 pfps: The change note should say that it is removed. ora: It is at the editors' discretion how to phrase that note. <niklasl> Removing the URL would be uncool? gkellogg: Should we and can we remove it from the namespace document? <niklasl> What's the standing of https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-plain-literal/ ? pfps: I would say we should remove it from the namespace. It is a historical artifact; none is using it. <niklasl> From the namespace RDF: rdf:PlainLiteral a rdfs:Datatype ; rdfs:comment "The class of plain (i.e. untyped) literal values, as used in RIF and OWL 2" ; rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> ; rdfs:label "PlainLiteral" ; rdfs:seeAlso <http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-plain-literal/> ; rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Literal . RESOLUTION: Remove rdf:plainLiteral from Semantics doc and add a change note pchampin: I suggest to record the resolution first. niklasl: What pchampin said. <Dominik_T> https://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/ns#unstable? james: If there is no longer a definition for it, it should be removed from the RDF file such that it doesn't appear in results anymore. pfps: There is still a definition in a separate document. <niklasl> +1 to deprecate (even rdf:PlainLiteral owl:deprecated true . ) james: In this case, okay. ora: action for pfps to take care of implementing this decision ACTION: pfps to make a PR to remove plainLiteral from semantics <gb> Created action #147 |
WG Resolution 2025-02-25 "Remove rdf:plainLiteral from Semantics doc and add a change note". |
RDF 1.1 Semantics has a mandated L2V for the IRI rdf:plainLiteral, in https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-mt/#literals-and-datatypes. The IRI doesn't appear to be in any other 1.1 document, but is defined in https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-plain-literal.
Should rdf:plainLiteral continue to be in Semantics? It would seem so, as it is in a normative RDF document. But perhaps there is no reason to continue to support this datatype in RDF.
If rdf:plainLiteral continues in Semantics, should it also be in Concepts? Should it be somehow deprecated?
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