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Sci/Tech Reviewer: @christophermaynard
Code Reviewer: @harry-shepherd

Remove the j loop which is adversely affecting performance in the boundary layer, and improve blocking loops.

Performance data can be found in the umbrella issue, #106
closes #217
Initial KGO issues were fixed with adding denom to the private list L2546.

Taking over from #221.

Introducing further blocking loops have introduced new KGO changes, which appear to be fast debug O2 optimisation driven.
I've also noted that with differing loop ranges over threads, reducing nowaits is required, which opens the option of removing the barrier to aid further PSyclone work in the future (The barriers will remain for now).
With the above KGO occurrences, these have likely factored into the cause of KGO changes at 1T, which remain unaffected for full-debug, still indicating optimisation as the likely root cause.
As the KGO updates are holding (for the all of the tests involved in the OMP dev group) for 1, 2 or 4T, I'm reasonably confident that it's not a newly introduced race condition or similar.

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From #221:

Running into some KGO issues at fast debug.
Fixing the denom value, the only new LHS variable in the history that was not in the OMP sections, means that fast-debug should be okay.

Below testing at full-debug indicates that the KGO is good, whilst 1 and 4 are technically added, 2T is consistent with trunk, and they hold between runs, which with the denom LHS above, they were not.

The most recent changes here increase the number of ii blocking loops present with the dynamic schedule.
I'll see if an update holds, otherwise my current leading theory is that, like lsppn, the blocking dynamic loops at fast debug are running into some trouble and being over-optimised. Using the UM flags resolved it.

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From #221:
Given full-debug does not change and holds between runs, likely it might be an optimisation occurence from CCE?

Updating the CCE KGOs show it holds.

Further testing, do they hold as seg-size changes?

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From #221

Barriers have been left. They should be removable (after removing some of the nowaits), but I'll look at this further in the PSyclone version of this ticket.

Current leading thought is that KGO changes are Optimisation changes, but they are more widespread.

Likely the intial KGO change was caused by the seg size loop intros, and as the bounds change, but the no waits didn't, the threaded runs changed, then stabalised. Changing the segment size after updating the KGOs does not cause them to change.

Changing further syncronisation points may have allowed the compiler to change how it has optimised, generting further KGO shifts.

Full debug otherwise remains consistent as a reference point, where previously with a genuine bug, they did not. This reinforces that the KGO change is optmisation driven.

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All looks fine to me

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