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…or rdfs:Proposition
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…ences and completeness proof
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LGTM!
It's a new initialism to get around the current political crackdown and still show that you are woke. I'll let you work out the expansion for yourself. |
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Good forward motion!
Isn't it time to merge this PR? |
I see four open threads —
— raising issues with existing wording in this PR, so before it gets merged, I would expect to see four fresh issues starting from those open subthreads. |
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I would like to have the wording for the equivalence fixed (see my comment).
…definition of satisfiability as suggested by Doerthe
Ready for merging - waiting for the OK by @doerthe. |
Minor fix
I am sorry, I accidentally directly changed the file instead of suggesting a change. But it was minor. |
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<p>We define the <dfn>set of propositions</dfn> in an interpretation as follows:</p> | ||
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<p class="fact"> The set of propositions in an interpretation I is IPR(I) = { <x, y, z>|x is in IR, y is in IP, z is in IR }; we observe that the propositions are exactly the domain of the RE mapping used to denote triple terms as resources. </p> |
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I want to make sure that this is correct. Is IPR
the domain of RE
? Or are the propositions what RE
maps into (the codomain)? Since triple terms denote propositions, is RE
mapping propositions to other resources, or to propositions?
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@niklasl my understanding of those definitions is that both "propositions" and "facts" must be 3-uples of things, so yes, IPR is he domain of RE, not the co-domain. And you are right, the "propositions" here are not the instances of rdfs:Proposition
, but their inverse images for RE.
I am not too bothered by this conflation, because:
- there are precedents anyway (
rdfs:Literal
and, in a way,rdf:Statement
) - while it is cleaner to define the co-domain of RE as a set of "opaque" elements of the domain, their intended meaning is (at least in my mental model) to represent the proposition itself (in a literal-ish way)
- introducing two different terms here would confuse anyone beyond those who commented on this PR...
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Yes, I certainly don't want two different terms here. I just wonder, if my reasoning is correct, that IPR(I) = { RE(x, y, z) | x ∈ IR, y ∈ IP, z ∈ IR }
and F(I) = { RE(x, y, z)|<x, z> ∈ IEXT(y) }
might be the way to express that.
I've figured that the reason of keeping RE
"opaque" rather than expanding its definition is because to do that, we'd need modal and/or higher order logic (and forsake completeness). My thinking is that it maps to a "delayed evaluation" of <x, z> ∈ IEXT(y)
(which may even be parameterized in a modal logic). Of course, I suppose that makes F(I)
a mapping from (all facts in) the interpretation to their image of propositions.
But if keeping the definitions of IPR
and F
as the preimages of (respectively) propositions and facts in the interpretation keeps things simpler (rather than obscuring by conflation), I can probably live with that. (I should, since I initially conflated them like that in an attempt to move further towards clarity. I much prefer some clarification to none. And yes, there are other conceptual conflations.)
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We have been discussing about that before. Currently, RE is an injective mapping from IRxIPxIR into IR. Wether or not it is the identity is a different question which we discussed before and we can certainly keep discussing (I already see some people objecting here, but we can even do that if don't change the semantics :) ), but for this PR the current form is correct.
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Yes, I certainly don't want two different terms here. I just wonder, if my reasoning is correct, that
IPR(I) = { RE(x, y, z) | x ∈ IR, y ∈ IP, z ∈ IR }
andF(I) = { RE(x, y, z)|<x, z> ∈ IEXT(y) }
might be the way to express that.
I think what would be in line with your idea would be to simply get rid of RE (that is, use the identity), that is
I(<s,p,o>)=<I(s), I(p), I(o)>.
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Using RE
to define IPR
, F
and FEXT
.
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Added at the end of Section 5.3:
The terminology defined here should be used to support the unification of the terminology of triples, as per issue #158 in Concepts.
This closes #87
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